Inter-life memories

Out of the Mouths of Babes: we shouldn’t define the soul by race or gender.


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 “We used to laugh

and call my son

an old man.”




Erika found it quirky and cute that her young son, Luke seemed obsessed with safety in and around their suburban Cincinnati home.

“Very cautious about, like, crossing the street — anything that might be hot or dangerous or high,” Erika said.

And then there was that other fixation.

“I think I specifically asked him ‘why did you name your ladybug Pam?’ And he said ‘I just think it’s a nice name,’” Erika said.

Soon, everything was ‘Pam,’ with increasingly peculiar comments.

“He used to say ‘when I was a girl, I had black hair,’ or he would say ‘I used to have earrings like that when I was a girl,’” Erika said.

The stay-at-home mom wondered “where was he getting these ideas?” Luke’s answer changed their lives.

“I was like ‘who is Pam’ out of frustration, and that’s when he turned to me and looked at me and said ‘well, I was.’ And I was like ‘what do you mean you were?’ And he’s like ‘well, I used to be, but I died. I went up to heaven, and I saw God, and he pushed me back down and when I woke up, I was a baby and you named me Luke,’” Erika said.

Now, Erika was really confused.

“She called me and she said, ‘you know, something weird is going on,’” Erika’s mom, Lisa Trump said.

Lisa remembered the book by  Dr. Ian Stevenson, called “Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation.”

“We started to realize that perhaps we did actually have something there,” Lisa said.

“I decided to go ahead and ask him further — ‘do you remember how you died?’ And he looked right at me, and he said ‘well, yeah. It was a fire.’ And then he made like, a motion with his hand. Like he was jumping off of a building,” Erika said.

A tall building, in a big city — where Luke said he walked a lot, and took the train.

“I was like ‘are you sure it was Chicago?’ And he was like ‘yes, I remember it was Chicago. It was Chicago,’” Erika said.

Erika plugged the information into the internet.

“And that’s when I came across the Paxton Hotel,” Erika said.

The Paxton Hotel was a residential building in a predominantly African-American Chicago neighborhood.

“You know, I just asked him — I was very casual about it, like — ‘Luke, what color was Pam’s skin?’ And he just looked right up at me like – ‘duh, black,’” Erika said.

In March 1993, a massive fire raced through the Paxton Hotel, trapping most residents. Nineteen people died — including a woman in her 30s named Pamela Robinson.

“Pam had jumped out of a window to her death. I was really kind of weirded out by it at this point,” Erika said.

While working with the Lifetime documentary series “Ghost Inside My Child,” Erika and Nick Ruehlman decided to put their now five-year-old to the test.

“I printed out a picture of Pam, and we had put it on a sheet of paper with a bunch of fake pictures. I didn’t really think that he was going to pick the right one,” Erika said.

But with the cameras rolling, Luke saw “someone I can recognize.” Luke said “I remember when this one was taken.”

“And he pointed to the correct one,” Erika said.

“It took me a couple days to wrap my head around it. I couldn’t sleep. I thought about it constantly,” Erika’s mother, Lisa Trump said.

Erika says she spoke with a family member of Pamela Robinson, and she discovered even more similarities.

“I know that Pam was a big Stevie Wonder fan, and Luke really likes that era of music. She played the keyboard a lot, and one of the things that Luke — his favorite toy at the time was this little tiny piano that he would tote around with him,” Erika said.

Just as Erika was becoming truly connected with Pam’s memory, Luke let her go.

“It’s like he got it all out and he was finished — and he had nothing more to say about it,” Erika said.

But the family continues to share their journey with anyone who will listen — not seeking fame or fortune.

“We didn’t receive any money from the (Ghost Inside My Child) show,” Lisa said.

They tell Luke’s story because, they say, it’s a message that needs to be told.

“It’s a positive one. It’s one of unification. It’s one of love,” Erika said.

“I think it tells us that we shouldn’t define the soul by race or gender. Out of the mouth of babes,” Lisa said.

Did Plato believe that the human body is a prison?

Plato had lots to say about the soul's time before birth...

Plato: Before our Souls fell from the state of BEING into the mundane realm, we saw the universe and understood the laws of destiny.

Every Soul “beheld true Being; this was the condition of her passing into the form of man.”

We witnessed beauty shining in all its brilliance—the beatific spectacle and (divine) vision.

Our Souls were initiated into the holiest of mysteries and enjoyed mystic ecstasy. We were still pure, “in the state of wholeness and unconscious of the evils that awaited us in the future.”

We were not yet “imprisoned in the body,” bound to it “like an oyster in his shell.


Japanese Research finds many Children with Life-Between-Life Memories

When I was born, I was flying up in the sky, looking for my mother....

Many children in Japan are born with pre-birth memories supporting our findings as presented in our book, Cosmic Cradle, Spiritual Dimensions of Life before Birth.

The Journal of Scientific Exploration recently published the results of a Japanese research study entitled “Children with Life-between-Life Memories.”

The Japanese study cites a six-year-old Japanese boy who recalls: “I was flying in the sky, looking for my mother. Looking down. I could see my mother and chose her. I thought she was the best person. She looked lonely, and I thought, ‘If I come to her, she will not feel lonely anymore.’”

A nine-year old Japanese girl describes the place where she was before she came to her mother: “There were many children, or souls, and a god, an entity with authority.”

To our question “Is he like a school teacher?” she replied: “No, no, no! He is much more generous,” and said, “He was looking after us, like a counselor.”


“Before I was born, I was up in Space with Grandma Evelyn.”

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Aimee relates: “When my son Casper was about three, he matter-of-factly told me how he chose me and how he took advice from my grandmother (who passed in 1992) when the time was right to ‘come down’.

He even knew things about my grandmother that I had never told him.

“Casper said he’d asked Grandmother Evelyn a couple of times if he could go to Earth and she said, ‘It isn’t the right time to be born yet.’

When he spoke her name, I literally gasped and it gave me goose bumps: ‘Before I came here, I was up in Space, where Evelyn lives. Evelyn, you know her, Mama, and we know you.’


Is Pre-Birth Memory a Taboo Topic in Religion?

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“We don’t talk about that…”

Why is pre-birth memory still a taboo topic today?

Did you know that pre-birth experience was first labeled a taboo topic by the Christian Church more than 1500 years ago?

Scholars teaching pre-mortal existence were viewed as heretics!

That is just one reason people may be reluctant to share these gifted memories:

“When I tried to tell my parents about remembering being born, they told me that I was making it up and that I was crazy.

“It is such a relief to discover that other people have pre-birth memories and to read almost “word for word” my womb experience and birthing experience which validates my memory recall and also validates that I AM NOT CRAZY!!


Can Miscarried or Aborted Babies Come Back?

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Four-year-old Dorothy says, “Last time when I was four inches long and in your tummy, Daddy wasn’t ready to marry you yet, so I went away.

But then, I came back.”

Can a miscarried soul reincarnate?

Could little Dorothy possibly be remembering a real situation that occurred before her physical birth? What do you think?

Pre-birth research goes beyond-the-five-normal-senses to discover a cosmic, interconnected, spiritual perspective to answer this question. We need to look at spiritual experiences that reveal the “behind-the-scenes” activities related to the mundane and seemingly unrelated experiences of our lives. We need to look into the world of the Soul.

One source to consider is the innocently-shared pre-birth memories of children who are much too young to have been privy to their mother’s previous miscarriage or abortion:


Do you remember being born?

remember being born“Sophie, my three-year-old is a very bright girl, and always has been. She acts and talks like she’s 30, and has since she was about 18 months old.

“One day she said, “Mommy, I am so glad I picked you to be my mommy, and daddy to be my daddy!”

“I asked her what she meant.

“She said she used to watch us before she was born and picked us to be her parents.

“She also knew her younger sister (our 18-month-old daughter) before she was born and chose her as her sister. She said her younger sister picked us to be her parents as well.

“I was a bit taken a back when she shared her pre-birth memories, but her tone was what caught me.

“She was so very matter-of-fact and nonchalant about it that I never even second-guessed her.


Sojourns of a Winnebago Shaman

A Native American Shaman relates the tale of three of his past lifetimes..The memories of Thunder-Cloud, a well-known Winnebago shaman, go back to his first human lifetime. He shared his past life and inter-life memories with Canadian ethnologist Paul Radin in 1908.

Thunder-Cloud considered himself a spiritual being having human experiences.

His brother-in-law, Crashing Thunder, describes him as a virtuous man, disliking no one, never stealing and never fighting, and he adhered strictly to all the precepts of the Medicine Rite.

I came from above, and I am holy. It is I, Thunder-Cloud, who speak, I who am now on earth for the third time, I who am now repeating experiences that I well remember from my previous existences.

First Lifetime on Earth

Many years before my present life, I lived on Earth in a party that numbered about twenty camps. Everyone seemed to be on the warpath. As a young lad, an enemy war party attacked my tribe. Innocent lives were lost. Due to my sudden death, I thought I still had a physical body. I even returned home to my wife.




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